TO:
Gov. Kay Ivey
Sen. Richard Shelby
Sen. Tommy Tuberville
Rep. Gary Palmer
Attorney General Steve Marshall
Sen. Dan Roberts
Rep. Jim Carns
Subject: Only open carry of handguns outside home; no concealed carry
In the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association case, Justice Clarence Thomas' majority opinion enunciated that the Constitution protects “an individual’s right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home.”
Thank you.
[6:45 pm. Above was submitted to addressees using their website contact forms. Below are confirmations of submission that were received back.]Form Submitted Thank you for contacting Governor Kay Ivey. Your request has been received.
Contact Form
Thank you for contacting me. A representative will be in touch with you shortly.
Sincerely,
Richard Shelby
United States Senator, Alabama
[below is Sen. Tuberville confirmation]
Thank you for contacting me to share your thoughts on this important issue. As your U.S. Senator, I appreciate the opportunity to represent you in Washington D.C. and to address the concerns of all who call the great State of Alabama home.
Hearing directly from my constituents is extremely important to me. Your comment has been directed to the appropriate team member for careful review. If you are reaching out for assistance with casework or a federal agency, we have forwarded your message to one of our Constituent Service Representatives in Alabama.
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Your request has been successfully submitted to the Alabama Attorney General's Office.
[below is confirmation from Rep. Palmer]
Thank you, your message has been sent.
[no confirmation from Sen. Roberts]
[no confirmation from Rep. Carns]
7/7/22 Email to Alabama TV stations
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: comments@abc3340.com, programming@abc3340.com, Susana.Schuler@hearst.com, blong@hearst.com, wcromwell@cbs42.com, rmartin@cbs42.com, collin.gaston@wbrc.com, jama.killingsworth@waff.com, julie@waff.com, paul.caron@whnt.com, mwright@waaytv.com, sgallien@waaytv.com, eric.duncan@fox10tv.com, Randy.Merrow@fox10tv.com, news@mynbc15.com, dsingleton@mynbc15.com, PAlbrecht@wkrg.com, clombard@wkrg.com, robby.thomas@wtvy.com, stephen.crews@wtvy.com, TCole@wdhn.com, RWare@wdhn.com, mbunting@wsfa.com, sduff@wsfa.com, ghalbrooks@alabamanews.net, jrainey@alabamanews.net, sdiorio@wvua23.com, knorred@wvua23.com
Cc: dmsmolin@samford.edu, tgrove@law.ua.edu, phorwitz@law.ua.edu, mbrandon@law.ua.edu , aolree@faulkner.edu
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2022 4:50 am
Subject: Email to my elected officials re only open carry of handguns outside of home
To: Alabama TV stations
Please see the email I have sent to my elected officials Gov. Ivey, Sen. Shelby, Sen. Tuberville, Rep. Palmer, Attorney General Marshall, Sen. Roberts and Rep. Carns, urging that only open carry of handguns outside home be allowed, and no concealed carry be allowed.
My email is at h
ttp://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html
Thank you.
Email to Alabama chambers of commerce
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: dcole@bcatoday.org <dcole@bcatoday.org>; ejerkins@birminghambusinessalliance.com <ejerkins@birminghambusinessalliance.com>; director@homewoodchamber.org <director@homewoodchamber.org>; chamber@vestaviahills.org <chamber@vestaviahills.org>; rfigh@montgomerychamber.com <rfigh@montgomerychamber.com>; chamberinfo@shelbychamber.net <chamberinfo@shelbychamber.net>; pelhamchamberofcommerce@gmail.com <pelhamchamberofcommerce@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2022 6:02 pm
Subject: Email to my elected officials re only open carry of handguns outside of home
To: Alabama chambers of commerce:
Please see the email I have sent to my elected officials Gov. Ivey, Sen. Shelby, Sen. Tuberville, Rep. Palmer, Attorney General Marshall, Sen. Roberts and Rep. Carns, urging that only open carry of handguns outside home be allowed, and no concealed carry be allowed.
My email is at
http://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.htmlThank you.
7/24/22
8/5/22 Going outside of AlabamaOn August 5th I commenced purveying my idea to parties outside of Alabama. These communications are being collected at
http://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/09/national-discussion-of-open-carry-only.html8/11/22
Emails requesting in person meetingsJEFF. CO. SHERIFF'S OFFICE
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: ageed@jccal.org <ageed@jccal.org>
Cc: moneyj@jccal.org <moneyj@jccal.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2022 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Automatic reply: [* Possible Spam *] may I have a meeting with with representative of Sheriff's Offuce re allowing only open carry of guns outside of home?
Dear Deputy Chief Agee,
Per below automatic reply from Joni Money, I am forwarding to you the email I sent requesting a meeting with a representative of the Sheriff's Office regarding allowing only open carry of guns outside of home. The email I sent is set out below the automatic reply below.
Thank you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Money, Joni <moneyj@jccal.org>
To: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2022 5:56 pm
Subject: Automatic reply: [* Possible Spam *] may I have a meeting with with representative of Sheriff's Office re allowing only open carry of guns outside of home?
I will be out of the office until August 18, 2022. If you need anything during this time, please reach out to Deputy Chief David Agee at ageed@jccal.org or by phone at 205-296-8521.
BIRMINGHAM CITY ATTORNEY
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: nicole.king@birminghamal.gov <nicole.king@birminghamal.gov>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2022 7:15 am
Subject: may I have a meeting with you re allowing only open carry of guns outside of home
Dear Ms. King,
May I have an in person meeting with you to discuss whether gun violence would be significantly reduced if only open carry of guns outside of the home for self-defense was allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home was prohibited?
For information about this idea, please read
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html and
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/06/dealing-with-scotus-gun-regulation.html.
Thank you.
UAB EMERGENCY MEDICINE DEPARTMENT
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: melie@uabmc.edu <melie@uabmc.edu>
Cc: mslay@uab.edu <mslay@uab.edu>; alabama@momschapterleaders.org <alabama@momschapterleaders.org>; eeaton@uab.edu <eeaton@uab.edu>; bdecker@hearst.com <bdecker@hearst.com>; Carla.Wade@Hearst.com <Carla.Wade@Hearst.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2022 4:59 am
Subject: WVTM13's news report re gun shot wounds & UAB Emergency Medicine Dept.
Dear Professor Marie-Carmelle,
On Thursday WVTM13 had a report on its 5 o'clock news about the Emergency Medicine Department's greatly increased treatment of gun shot wounds (going from something like 250 a year to 1250 a year over a ten year period).
One of the professors from your Department was shown, but I didn't get his name, so I am sending this email to you.
I am purveying to Alabama lawmakers, mayors, police departments, sheriff's departments and others that gun violence would be greatly reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense was allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home was prohibited. See
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html and
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/06/dealing-with-scotus-gun-regulation.html.
I am now requesting in person meetings to discuss this idea.
In my agitating in Alabama about reducing gun violence, I have made numerous communications to the Alabama health care community, and this email is continuing such communications.
If you think it would be worthwhile for me to meet with anyone in your Department to discuss my idea about how to reduce gun violence, please let me know.
Thank you for your attention to this email.
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: melie@uabmc.edu <melie@uabmc.edu>
Cc: mslay@uab.edu <mslay@uab.edu>; alabama@momschapterleaders.org <alabama@momschapterleaders.org>; eeaton@uab.edu <eeaton@uab.edu>; bdecker@hearst.com <bdecker@hearst.com>; Carla.Wade@hearst.com <Carla.Wade@hearst.com>; sgweinacker@uabmc.edu <sgweinacker@uabmc.edu>; sgweinacker@uabmc.edu <sgweinacker@uabmc.edu>
Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2022 8:12 am
Subject: Re: EXT MSG WVTM13's news report re gun shot wounds & UAB Emergency Medicine Dept.
Thank you very much for your reply, Professor Marie-Carmelle.
Please be advised that I will post your email reply on
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html, as a way to help me in my effort to get in person meetings with lawmakers, mayors, police departments, sheriff's departments and others to explain why I believe gun violence would be greatly reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense is allowed and concealed carry outside the home is prohibited,
If you prefer that your email reply not be made public in the foregoing way, please let me know and I will delete the posting I make of of your reply.
Also, I mention that an important aspect of my idea is to differentiate between a Second Amendment purpose for citizens to be able to bear arms to defend the United States and the constitution against foreign invaders (and against domestic insurrectionists), and the extent to which the Second Amendment gives citizens a right to bear arms against the United States and the constitution (which I don't think it does).
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: melie@uabmc.edu <melie@uabmc.edu>
Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2022 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: EXT MSG WVTM13's news report re gun shot wounds & UAB Emergency Medicine Dept.
No problem, Professor Marie-Carmelle. I won't post your reply.
I trust, however, you don't object if I post the emails I sent to you.
8/15/22
8/16/22 AL constitutional law professors
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: dmsmolin@samford.edu <dmsmolin@samford.edu>; phorwitz@law.ua.edu <phorwitz@law.ua.edu>; mbrandon@law.ua.edu <mbrandon@law.ua.edu>; aolree@faulkner.edu <aolree@faulkner.edu>
Cc: melie@uabmc.edu <melie@uabmc.edu>; mslay@uab.edu <mslay@uab.edu>; alabama@momschapterleaders.org <alabama@momschapterleaders.org>; eeaton@uab.edu <eeaton@uab.edu>; bdecker@hearst.com <bdecker@hearst.com>; Carla.Wade@hearst.com <Carla.Wade@hearst.com>; sgweinacker@uabmc.edu <sgweinacker@uabmc.edu>
Sent: Tue, Aug 16, 2022 6:16 pm
Subject: FWD: EXT MSG WVTM13's news report re gun shot wounds & UAB Emergency Medicine Dept.
To the addressee Alabama constitutional law professors:
Can I get help from an Alabama constitutional law professor to differentiate between a Second Amendment purpose for citizens to be able to bear arms to defend the United States and the constitution against foreign invaders (and against domestic insurrectionists), and the extent to which the Second Amendment gives citizens a right to bear arms against the United States and the constitution (which I don't think it does)?
This help is needed in my trying to explain to Alabama lawmakers, mayors, police departments, sheriff's departments and others why I believe gun violence would be reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense is allowed and concealed carry outside the home is prohibited.
See
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html.
Thank you very much.
[Forwarded email was above Mon, Aug 15, 2022 8:12 am email to melie@uabmc.edu.]
8/19/22 More emails re in person meetings SHELBY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICEFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: mbishop@shelbyso.com <mbishop@shelbyso.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2022 6:45 pm
Subject: Request of Mountain Brook resident to meet with you
Dear Captain Bishop,
I would like to visit with you (or other appropriate person in the Shelby County Sheriff's office).
The objective of this request should be adequately indicated by the below email I sent this morning to Mountain Brook's Police Chief Loggins.
For more background on this, please read
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html.
Thank you very much for whatever accommodation the Shelby County Sheriff's office can provide to this request.
Rob Shattuck
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: logginsj@mtnbrook.org <logginsj@mtnbrook.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2022 6:56 am
Subject: request to come to City Hall to talk about reducing gun violence
Dear Chief Loggins,
I am a Mountain Brook resident, who has been communicating to you and other Alabama police departments, sheriff's offices, lawmakers and public officials regarding the subject of how to reduce gun violence.
I am propounding that gun violence would be significantly reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense is permitted, and concealed carry of guns outside the home is prohibited.
I am seeking in person meetings to discuss this idea, including currently with the Birmingham Police Department and the Jefferson County Sheriff's office (I will be calling Deputy Chief Agee at the sheriff's office today to try to set up an appointment).
I think what I am propounding is worthy of being heard out by government officials.
If my idea is cockamamie, I wish to listen to explanation of why it is cockamamie, and I am open to being dissuaded from pressing the idea further.
I know Mountain Brook's gun violence problem is different from gun violence problems elsewhere, such in the City of Birmingham, and Mountain Brook's need for reducing gun violence is much less than in other places.
Nonetheless, I believe the Mountain Brook police department is very attuned to the challenges that guns and gun violence present for law enforcement all over the country, and I think I as a Mountain Brook resident should be able to talk with the department.
Ideally I would like to persuade you that my idea is not cockamamie, and that it would achieve gun violence reduction; and, if I persuade you to that effect, you would urge for other Alabama law enforcement and governmental officials to talk with me.
According, I would like to come to City Hall and have a conversation with you or some other Mountain Brook official about this.
Please let me know if I can do that.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
(205) 967-5586
BIRMINGHAM CITY COUNCILORS
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: clinton.woods@birminghamal.gov, hunter.williams@birminghamal.gov, valerie.abbott@birminghamal.gov, jonathan.moore2@birminghamal.gov, Darrell.OQuinn@birminghamal.gov, crystal.smitherman@birminghamal.gov, wardine.alexander@birminghamal.gov, carol.clarke@birminghamal.gov, latonya.tate@birminghamal.gov,
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2022 7:47 am
Subject: request of Mountain Brook resident to meet with you about how to reduce gun violence
Dear Birmingham City Councilors Woods, Williams, Abbott, Moore, O'Quinn, Smitherman, Alexander, Clarke and Tate:
I would like to meet with one or more of you to discuss how to reduce gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
For information about this idea, please read
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html and
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/06/dealing-with-scotus-gun-regulation.html.
Thank you very much for whatever accommodation you can provide to this request.
Rob Shattuck
(205) 967-5586
BIRMINGHAM BUSINESS ALLICANCEFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: ejerkins@birminghambusinessalliance.com <ejerkins@birminghambusinessalliance.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2022 4:54 pm
Subject: allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense
Dear Ms. Jerkins,
Would you or someone else with the Birmingham Business Alliance be willing to meet with me to discuss the below email I have sent to the Birmingham City Councilors concerning reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home?
Thank you.
THE SHELBY COUNTY CHAMBER
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: kirk@shelbychamber.org <kirk@shelbychamber.org>
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2022 5:08 pm
Subject: allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense
Dear Mr. Mancer,
Would you or someone else with the Shelby County Chamber be willing to meet with me to discuss the below email I have sent to Captain Bishop of the Shelby County Sheriff's office, concerning reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home?
Thank you.
TUSCALOOSA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCILORSFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: district1@tuscco.com <district1@tuscco.com>; district2@tuscco.com <district2@tuscco.com>; district3@tuscco.com <district3@tuscco.com>; district4@tuscco.com <district4@tuscco.com>; MWILSON@TUSCALOOSA.COM <MWILSON@TUSCALOOSA.COM>; RHOWARD@TUSCALOOSA.COM <RHOWARD@TUSCALOOSA.COM>; NCROW@TUSCALOOSA.COM <NCROW@TUSCALOOSA.COM>; LBUSBY@TUSCALOOSA.COM <LBUSBY@TUSCALOOSA.COM>; KTYNER@TUSCALOOSA.COM <KTYNER@TUSCALOOSA.COM>; JFAILE@TUSCALOOSA.COM <JFAILE@TUSCALOOSA.COM>; CLANIER@TUSCALOOSA.COM <CLANIER@TUSCALOOSA.COM>
Cc: lisa@lisawardforsenate.com <lisa@lisawardforsenate.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2022 3:15 pm
Subject: reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense
To Tuscaloosa County Commissioners Acker, Tingle, Nelson & Murray and Tuscaloosa City Councilors Wilson, Howard, Crow, Busby, Tyner, Faile, & Lanier:
I think gun violence can be reduced by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
For information about this idea, please read
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html and
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/06/dealing-with-scotus-gun-regulation.html.
Please consider this idea for Tuscaloosa City and County.
Thank you
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook, AL
8/22/22
EMAIL TO ALABAMA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>To: government.relations@alea.gov <government.relations@alea.gov>
Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2022 5:47 pm
Subject: reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry outside the home
Mr. Christopher Reader
Governmental Affairs Director
Alabama Law Enforcement Agency
Dear Mr. Reader,
In July, I emailed my Alabama State Senator Dan Roberts and Representative Jim Carns regarding the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association case, in which Justice Clarence Thomas' majority opinion enunciated that the Constitution protects “an individual’s right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home.”
My email to Sen. Roberts and Rep. Carns said that I believe the individual right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home can be fully accommodated and at the same time gun violence will be greatly reduced if the only permitted carry of guns outside the home is open carry, and concealed carry of guns outside the home is prohibited.
I provided to Sen. Roberts and Rep. Carns a link for more information at
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/06/dealing-with-scotus-gun-regulation.html.I plan to call Sen. Roberts and Rep. Carns this week to discuss what I emailed to them.
Also, I am contacting Alabama mayors, city councils, county commissions, police departments, sheriff's departments and others to discuss with them and get their views about whether gun violence would be significantly reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense was allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home was prohibited. See
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.htmlI would like to have such a discussion with ALEA to obtain its views on this.
I will call you to find out whether such a discussion with ALEA is possible.
Thank you.
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook, AL
8/23/22 GUN VIOLENCE AGAINST CHILDREN FUND[8/24/22 Thus far I have emailed Ashfaq Taufique Pastor Chris Hodges, Pastor Mike Moore, Pastor Steve Green, Rev. Julie Conrady and Pastor Tyree Anderson (who is not on list).]
PELL CITY AND GUN VIOLENCE
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: PCPDChief@cityofpellcity.net <PCPDChief@cityofpellcity.net>
Cc: bpruitt@cityofpellcity.net <bpruitt@cityofpellcity.net>; jjenkins@cityofpellcity.net <jjenkins@cityofpellcity.net>; imcdaniel@cityofpellcity.net <imcdaniel@cityofpellcity.net>; bhenderson@cityofpellcity.net <bhenderson@cityofpellcity.net>; jmitcham@cityofpellcity.net <jmitcham@cityofpellcity.net>; jalverson@cityofpellcity.net <jalverson@cityofpellcity.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2022 6:21 pm
Subject: Sen. Tuberville - reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns
Dear Chief Morris
It appeared from the photo at
https://altoday.com/archives/46851-tommy-tuberville-calls-for-spiritual-change-in-america that you were one of the Pell City community leaders whom Senator Tommy Tuberville addressed today.
I don't know how much gun violence happens in Pell City or how great Pell City community sentiment is to reduce gun violence.
In July I submitted to Senator Tuberville (and other Alabama lawmakers and officials) that gun violence would be reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense was allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home was prohibited.
Since then I have purveyed this idea to numerous Alabama mayors, city councils, police departments, sheriff's offices, public health professionals, chambers of commerce, and churches and pastors. See
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html.
The purpose of this email to you (and copied to others) is to inform Pell City community leaders about my idea and my efforts to get consideration of the idea by those in positions of power and authority in Alabama.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
(205) 967-5586
Email to Sen. Tuberville sent 8/26 7:20 am using contact formSubject: Guns -Your visit to Pell City yesterday; email to Police Chief Morris
I availed of your visit to Pell City yesterday to email Pell City Police Chief Morris to tell him about my submission to you in July about reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
May I have a phone conversation with you or someone on your staff about this idea I submitted to you in July.
Thank you.
DOTHAN AND GUN VIOLENCEFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: webenny@dothan.org <webenny@dothan.org>
Cc: mayor@dothan.org <mayor@dothan.org>; district1@dothan.org <district1@dothan.org>; district2@dothan.org <district2@dothan.org>; district3@dothan.org <district3@dothan.org>; district4@dothan.org <district4@dothan.org>; district5@dothan.org <district5@dothan.org>; district6@dothan.org <district6@dothan.org>; melia@dothan.com <melia@dothan.com>; hcamp@dothan.com <hcamp@dothan.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2022 3:51 pm
Subject: Sen. Tuberville's visit to Dothan - reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside of home for self-defense
Dear Chief Benny
I am availing of Sen. Tuberville's visit with the Dothan Chamber of Commerce and the Dothan Young Professionals this past week to send you this email (with copies to Mayor Saliba and the City Commissioners).
I don't know how much gun violence happens in Dothan or how great the Dothan community sentiment is to reduce gun violence.
In early July I submitted to Senator Tuberville (and other Alabama lawmakers and officials) that gun violence would be reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense was allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home was prohibited.
I have been purveying this idea since then to Alabama mayors, city councils, police departments, sheriff's offices, public health professionals, chambers of commerce, and churches and pastors. See
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html.
The purpose of this email is to include you, Mayor Saliba and the City Commissioners in being informed about my idea for consideration of the same.
If you have any questions about my idea, please do not hesitate to ask me.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook, AL
(205) 967-5586
8/31/22 ANOTHER EMAIL TO B'HAM CITY COUNCILORSFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: clinton.woods@birminghamal.gov, hunter.williams@birminghamal.gov, valerie.abbott@birminghamal.gov, jonathan.moore2@birminghamal.gov, Darrell.OQuinn@birminghamal.gov, crystal.smitherman@birminghamal.gov, wardine.alexander@birminghamal.gov, carol.clarke@birminghamal.gov, latonya.tate@birminghamal.gov,
Cc: sjackson@cbs42.com <sjackson@cbs42.com>; llalo@contractor.nexstar.tv <llalo@contractor.nexstar.tv>; jcardone@cbs42.com <jcardone@cbs42.com>; alabama@momschapterleaders.org <alabama@momschapterleaders.org>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2022 12:42 pm
Subject: Woodfin calls on leaders for stricter gun laws
Dear Birmingham City Councilors Woods, Williams, Abbott, Moore, O'Quinn, Smitherman, Alexander, Clarke and Tate:
I previously sent you an August 19th email about reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
Yesterday, City Councilors Williams and Moore and Police Chief Thurmond emphasized the importance of everyone, police and community members, working together, and community members telling the police what they know. The below is quoted from CBS42's reporting at
https://www.cbs42.com/news/local/woodfin-calls-on-leaders-for-stricter-gun-laws/:
“The complacency of the community where 911 is not called after 30 rounds that go off across the street, it’s saddening and it’s troubling at the same time,” Williams said.
Woodfin said 92 percent of this year’s homicides happened by gunfire. Birmingham Police Chief Scott Thurmond said everyone must be their eyes and ears because they can’t be everywhere at once.
“A lot of our community members know what’s going on in the community and we ask that they share that information with us to prevent crime and solve the crime that already occurred,” Thurmond said.
Councilman J.T. Moore said there is power in the collective when everyone works together.
“If everybody is making the phone calls and calling the police and making the police reports and if everybody is sending the emails and if everybody is taking the pictures, what you start to create is a culture that this type of activity will not be able to thrive in,” Moore said.
Moore encourages everyone to get involved with their neighborhood associations to bring these issues to their attention to get help where it is needed.
You can always call tips in anonymously to crime stoppers at 205-254-7777.
I imagine there is a great sense of hopelessness in the community about gun violence, a feeling that nothing they do will contribute to lessening the gun violence, and so they don't bother reporting things to the police.
I suggest, if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense is permitted, and concealed carry outside the home is prohibited, there would be much more working together of police and community members.
Imagine Gov. Ivey, Mayor Woodfin, AG Marshall and Chief Thurmond holding a press conference in which they say:
For 25 years guns have been a huge safety and health problem for the United States, seemingly intractable by reason of Second Amendment rights, which must not be violated. We believe what we are announcing today offers a great solution in Alabama. The United States Supreme Court has told us that the Second Amendment protects “an individual’s right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home." We think that right can be fully accommodated, and at the same time gun violence will be greatly reduced if the only permitted carry of guns outside the home is open carry for self-defense, and concealed carry of guns outside the home is prohibited. For all Alabamians, this means you have and will have a complete right to carry a gun outside your home for self-defense, except your gun must be carried openly for everyone to see. Such open carry of a gun outside the home for self-defense will provide equal or greater capacity for self-defense as concealed carry of a gun. At the same time, we believe Alabamians will be safer from gun violence. Police may give special attention to places where Alabamians feel they need to carry guns for self-defense. By the same token, other Alabamians may choose to avoid those places or decide they too should carry a gun for self-defense in those places. This in turn may lead Alabama's lawmakers to give expanded consideration to public areas that should be designated as "sensitive areas" where guns are entirely prohibited. Also, private property owners who want to prohibit guns on their premises will be better able to do so if guns are carried openly. Only allowing open carry will allow community members to report to the police other members of the community who are carrying concealed weapons outside their home. With the limitation to open carry outside the home for self-defense, lawmakers may make determinations about types of guns that are legitimately for self-defense and that may be carried openly outside the home for self-defense.
As I said in my August 19th email to you (which set forth below), I would like to meet with one or more of you to discuss reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
Thank you.
Rob Shattuck
205-967-5586
9/1/22 EMAIL TO MONTGOMERY CITY COUNCILLORS
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: cjinright@montgomeryal.gov, cccalhoun@montgomeryal.gov; egrimes@montgomeryal.gov; blyons@montgomeryal.gov; mtjohnson@montgomeryal.gov, agraham@montgomeryal.gov, cmcinnis@montgomeryal.gov, gpruitt@montgomeryal.gov
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2022 5:54 pm
Subject: reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside home for self-defense
Dear Montgomery City Councillors Jinright, Calhoun, Grimes, Lyons, Johnson, Graham, Mitchell, McInnis, and Pruitt:
I am purveying to Alabama lawmakers, mayors, police departments, sheriff's departments and others that gun violence would be greatly reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense was allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home was prohibited.
For information about this, please read
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html and
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/06/dealing-with-scotus-gun-regulation.html.
On Tuesday, Birmingham Mayor Woodfin made a plea for stricter gun laws, and Birmingham City Councilors Williams and Moore and Police Chief Thurmond emphasized the importance of everyone, police and community members, working together, and community members telling the police what they know.
In reaction to that, I sent the below email yesterday to the Birmingham City Councilors.
I hope the Montgomery City Council will consider whether gun violence will be reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense is allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home is prohibited.
Thank you very much for your attention to this email.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
205-967-5586
9/2/22 EMAIL TO YOLANDA FLOWERS, OTHER DEM CANDIDATES, & DOUG JONESFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: contact@yolandaforgovernor.org <contact@yolandaforgovernor.org>
Cc: info@dougjones.com <info@dougjones.com>; bishopdrwillboyd@gmail.com <bishopdrwillboyd@gmail.com>; mary.luke@mail.house.gov <mary.luke@mail.house.gov>; lisa@lisawardforsenate.com <lisa@lisawardforsenate.com>; info@neighborsforcongress.com <info@neighborsforcongress.com>; info@kirkhatcher.com <info@kirkhatcher.com>; info@phillipensler.com <info@phillipensler.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2022 7:40 am
Subject: Re: reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry outside home
Dear Ms. Flowers:
It is great to hear from you.
Making Americans safer from gun violence may be harder now than ever before.
Consider what has happened with The Concealed Carry Improvement Act that New York State passed during a special session a week after the U.S. Supreme Court decision in the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association case. That new law took effect yesterday, and immediately it became clear the law will be strenuously challenged in the courts, with an unknown outcome at this time. See
New gun law continues on despite judge calling it 'unconstitutional'.
I don't know what other laws will be enacted in other States in reaction to the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association case or what the legal prospects of those laws will be.
It seems to me, in this Labor Day to Election Day run in the 2022 midterms, Democratic candidates such as yourself need to figure out exactly how they (and you) will campaign and what they (and you) will say on the issue of reducing gun violence.
Possibly Democratic candidates will campaign on specific legislation they advocate for reducing gun violence. There may be lots of different ideas about such specific legislation.
I think the touchstone for Democratic candidates should be in the vein of saying this:
"Americans have a right to have guns for self-defense. At the same time, there is a role for governments to protect Americans from gun violence. There are ways the governments can do that without violating Second Amendment rights of citizens to have guns for self-defense. In my election campaign, I will delve into this much more with you the voters, and I hope my opponent in this election will also talk about this to you the voters."
I think Democratic candidates should have conversations with one another about how best to campaign on the issue of reducing gun violence and about exactly what to say to the voters.
In that vein, I have copied on this email Dr. Will Boyd, Rep. Terri Sewell, and other Democratic candidates in Alabama, plus former Alabama Senator Doug Jones, who might be a good sounding board on this.
I am an Independent who has his own ideas about reducing gun violence. I will be pleased to talk about this with whoever would like to talk with me (including you). Just let me know.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
205-967-5586
EMAIL TO MOMS DEMAND ALABAMA CHAPTER LEADERS From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: alabama@momschapterleaders.org <alabama@momschapterleaders.org>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2022 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: Response to your previous email
Thank you, Susan and Paula.
I would think that much thinking is going on in various quarters about gunsense strategy, tactics, campaigning and messaging in reaction to the Supreme Court's decision in the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association case.
That has been the focus of my attention for the past two months.
This morning I sent the below email to Alabama Democratic gubernatorial candidate Yolanda Flowers, with copies to other Democratic candidates in Alabama, plus Doug Jones.
Have Shannon Watts and/or Everytown registered any effect on their strategy, tactics, campaigning and messaging in reaction to the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association case? If you can point me to anything, I would be very interested.
I will keep plugging.
Rob
9/4/22
EMAIL TO HUNTSVILLE CITY COUNCILORS From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: Devyn.Keith@HuntsvilleAL.gov <Devyn.Keith@HuntsvilleAL.gov>; Frances.Akridge@HuntsvilleAL.gov <Frances.Akridge@HuntsvilleAL.gov>; Jennie.Robinson@HuntsvilleAL.gov <Jennie.Robinson@HuntsvilleAL.gov>; Bill.Kling@HuntsvilleAL.gov <Bill.Kling@HuntsvilleAL.gov>; John.Meredith@HuntsvilleAL.gov <John.Meredith@HuntsvilleAL.gov>
Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2022 4:31 pm
Subject: Emails to Bhm, Mtgy, Tuscaloosa & Dothan city councilors re reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside home for self-defense
I have sent emails to the Birmingham, Montgomery, Tuscaloosa and Dothan city councilors about reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense, and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
My emails are posted at
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.htmlI would like it very much for you to go to the foregoing link and read those emails.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
EMAIL TO CITY OF MOBILE GOVERNMENTrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: mayorstimpson@cityofmobile.org <mayorstimpson@cityofmobile.org>; rwoods@cityofmobile.org <rwoods@cityofmobile.org>; battistel@cityofmobile.org <battistel@cityofmobile.org>; paul.prine@cityofmobile.org <paul.prine@cityofmobile.org>
Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2022 5:43 pm
Subject: reducing gun violence in Mobile by allowing only open carry of guns outside of home for self-defense
The government of the City of Mobile should consider whether gun violence will be greatly reduced if only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense is allowed, and concealed carry of guns outside the home is prohibited.
To help the government of the City of Mobile consider this matter, please read
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
EMAIL TO VESTAVIA HILLSFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: acurry@vhal.org <acurry@vhal.org>; rweaver@vhal.org <rweaver@vhal.org>; kcook@vhal.org <kcook@vhal.org>; phead@vhal.org <phead@vhal.org>; gpierce@vhal.org <gpierce@vhal.org>; jdownes@vhal.org <jdownes@vhal.org>
Cc: crobinson@al.com <crobinson@al.com>; katiew@vestaviahills.org <katiew@vestaviahills.org>
Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2022 7:11 am
Subject: AMC theater incident - reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside home for self-defense
Dear Mayor Curry; City Councilors Weaver, Cook, Head, and Pierce; and City Manager Downes:
Please consider whether allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense, prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home, and designating "sensitive areas" where guns are entirely prohibited, would reduce gun violence and help prevent incidents such as happened at the AMC theater yesterday.
For more about this idea, please read
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html.
Thank you.
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
CRIME STOPPERS OF METRO ALABMA
EMAIL TO UAB CHIEF OF POLICE
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: ddgreen@uab.edu <ddgreen@uab.edu>
Sent: Wed, Sep 7, 2022 7:52 am
Subject: Protecting UAB community from gun violence
Dear Associate Vice President and Chief of Police Green:
I have sent the below email to Birmingham City Councilors Woods, Williams, Abbott, Moore, O'Quinn, Smitherman, Alexander, Clarke and Tate, in which I request to meet with them about reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
I don't know what regulations UAB has to protect the UAB community against gun violence on the UAB campus.
Besides the on campus risk, the UAB community has significant exposure to the risk of gun violence in areas of the City of Birmingham that are off campus.
If you think the City of Birmingham allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home would make the UAB community safer from the risk of gun violence and is meritorious for consideration by the Birmingham City Council, I hope UAB will request the Birmingham City Council to consider the matter.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss this, I would be pleased to oblige.
Thank you.
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
205-967-5586
EMAIL TO CRIMESTOPPERS OF METRO ALABAMAFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: info@crimestoppersmetroal.com <info@crimestoppersmetroal.com>
Cc: DAInquiry@jccal.org <DAInquiry@jccal.org>; bmurray@stclairco.com <bmurray@stclairco.com>; jeffw@uab.edu <jeffw@uab.edu>; inquiries@jeffcobessemerda.org <inquiries@jeffcobessemerda.org>
Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2022 2:36 pm
Subject: For Executive Director Bob Copus - making Metro Alabama safer
Dear Mr. Copus:
I have sent the below email to Birmingham City Councilors Woods, Williams, Abbott, Moore, O'Quinn, Smitherman, Alexander, Clarke and Tate, in which I request to meet with them about reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
If Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama thinks allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home would make the Metro Alabama area safer from gun violence and is meritorious for consideration by the Birmingham City Council and by other appropriate governing bodies in the Metro Alabama area, I hope Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama will request the Birmingham City Council and those other governing bodies to consider the matter.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss this, I would be pleased to oblige.
Thank you.
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
205-967-5586
CC to below listed Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama Board members:
Danny Carr, District Attorney, Jefferson County, Alabama
Billy Murray, Sheriff, Saint Clair County, Alabama
Jeffery T. Walker, Ph.D. Chair Department of Criminal Justice University of Alabama, Birmingham
Lynneice O. Washington, District Attorney Bessemer Cutoff District Jefferson County, Alabama
EMAIL TO BIRMINGHAM CITY COUNCILORS RE GUN VIOLENCE AGAINST CHILDREN FUNDFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To:clinton.woods@birminghamal.gov, hunter.williams@birminghamal.gov, valerie.abbott@birminghamal.gov, jonathan.moore2@birminghamal.gov, Darrell.OQuinn@birminghamal.gov, crystal.smitherman@birminghamal.gov, wardine.alexander@birminghamal.gov, carol.clarke@birminghamal.gov, latonya.tate@birminghamal.gov,
Sent: Fri, Sep 9, 2022 6:21 pm
Subject: Churches and pastors who are involved in Mayor Woodfin's Gun Violence Against Children Fund
Dear Birmingham City Councilors Woods, Williams, Abbott, Moore, O'Quinn, Smitherman, Alexander, Clarke and Tate:
I have been contacting churches and pastors who are involved in Mayor Woodfin's Gun Violence Against Children Fund (such churches and pastors being listed at
https://www.birminghamal.gov/crimestoppers).
Yesterday I received a reply email from one of them.
The reply email said:
Thanks for your email and phone call. Of course I believe gun violence should be reduced, but I'm also not sure how I can help, since the Alabama power systems continue to allow and encourage the use of weapons freely.
Please let me know if there's some way I can help.
I in turn replied, saying:
Yes, ____, I agree the Alabama power systems continue to allow and encourage the use of weapons freely.
I think there is a way to make the case that the power systems do not have a justified basis under the 2nd Amendment for what they are doing and that they are the cause of unjustified death and harm to Alabamians for what they do.
If that case can be forcefully laid out against the power systems, there is a possibility for pushing the power systems back.
Here is what I would like to do.
I would like 15 minutes or so on the phone with you for me to lay out the case against the power systems. If you are impressed with the case that I make against the power systems, we can discuss a next step.
If we can schedule a time for a telephone call tomorrow, that would be great. I can manage any time of the day tomorrow. Just let me know.
If tomorrow is not good for you, we can look for another day.
I have previously sent you two emails, one on August 19th and the other on August 31st, concerning the subject of reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
I have solicited meeting with one or more of you to discuss reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
I continue that solicitation.
Thank you.
Rob Shattuck
205-967-5586
Email to Jefferson County Commissioner Scales re public safety town hallFrom: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: scalesl@jccal.org <scalesl@jccal.org>
Cc: tysons@jccal.org <tysons@jccal.org>; stephensj@jccal.org <stephensj@jccal.org>; KnightJoe@jccal.org <KnightJoe@jccal.org>; ammonss@jccal.org <ammonss@jccal.org>
Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2022 7:09 am
Subject: Your public safety town hall tonight - reducing gun violence by allowing only open carry of guns outside home for self-defense
Dear Commissioner Scales,
I am in district 5 and not your district 1.
In the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association case, Justice Clarence Thomas' majority opinion enunciated that the Constitution protects “an individual’s right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home.”
I believe the individual right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home can be fully accommodated and at the same time gun violence will be greatly reduced if the only permitted carry of guns outside the home is open carry for self-defense, and concealed carry of guns outside the home is prohibited.
For two months I have been purveying this idea to Alabama mayors, city councils, law enforcement, public health professionals and business chambers of commerce. See
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/07/to-my-elected-officials-only-open-carry.html.
I hope you and the other Jefferson County Commissioners will consider the idea of allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
If you have any questions of me about the idea, please ask.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
205-967-5586
EMAIL TO COMMISSIONER AMMONS
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: ammonss@jccal.org <ammonss@jccal.org>
Cc: tysons@jccal.org <tysons@jccal.org>; stephensj@jccal.org <stephensj@jccal.org>; knightjoe@jccal.org <knightjoe@jccal.org>; scalesl@jccal.org <scalesl@jccal.org>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2022 6:58 am
Subject: request to meet with you regarding only open carry of guns outside home for self-defense
Dear Commissioner Ammons,
On Monday I sent the below email to Commissioner Scales regarding her Monday night public safety town hall and I copied you and the other Commissioners on the email.
I am in your district 5 and I would like to meet with you to discuss the idea of allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home.
My reasoning in support of of allowing only open carry of guns outside the home for self-defense and prohibiting concealed carry of guns outside the home is indicated at
https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2022/09/case-for-open-carry-only.html.
Thank you for whatever accommodation you can provide me regarding this request.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook
205-967-5586
