Wednesday, December 20, 2023

Did Donald Trump engage in insurrection on Jan. 6th?

[Edit 12/22: I posted this blog entry two days ago with the title "What will happen to United States in 2024 elections?" I have changed that title today to "Did Donald Trump engage in insurrection on Jan. 6th?", and that is the question I will try to get the below referenced "all-star cast" to answer.]

The above article reports that there was an "all-star cast of legislators, government and corporate executives, university administrators, major party donors and industry association chiefs alongside the crowd of GOP officials and national political influencers. who gathered to see history in the making in Tuscaloosa." The article reported that the debate was lauded for showcasing Alabama and the University of Alabama on the national stage; introducing the candidates to Alabama, who may return to Alabama in future capacities; and for the tourism and economic impact.

More importantly, I think, is that the debate was, and continues to be, an opportunity to delve into the question: "What will happen to the United States in 2024 elections?" [Edit 12/22: question has been changed to: "Did Donald Trump engage in insurrection on Jan. 6th?",] 

The above article listed the below attendees.
Greg Reed, President Pro Tem of the Alabama State Senate
Bill Poole, Alabama Finance Director
Twinkle Cavanaugh, President of the Alabama Public Service Commission
Attorney General Steve Marshall
State Senator Lance Bell (Pell City)
State Senator Gerald Allen (Tuscaloosa)
State Representative Danny Garrett (Trussville)
State Representative Rhett Marques (Enterprise)
State Representative Cynthia Almond (Tuscaloosa)
State Representative Ron Bolton (Northport)
State Representative Bill Lamb (Tuscaloosa)
Secretary of State Wes Allen
Ed Aldag, Medical Properties Trust CEO
Phill Webb, CEO Webb Concrete and Building Services
Kevin Savoy, President Great Southern Wood Preserving
Robert Dohr, President of the American Enterprise Institute
Paul Pinyan, Executive Director Alabama Farmers Federation
Walt Maddox, Mayor of Tuscaloosa
Dr. Stuart Bell, President of the University of Alabama
Finis St. John, Chancellor of the University of Alabama System
Scott Phelps, President of the University of Alabama System Board of Trustees
Bill Battle, former UA Athletic Director

I will endeavor to pose to them the question: What will happen to United States in 2024 elections?". [Edit 12/22: question has been changed to: "Did Donald Trump engage in insurrection on Jan. 6th?",] 

Email to UA Professor Bauer
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: ajbauer2@ua.edu <ajbauer2@ua.edu>
Cc: lee@treadbylee.com <lee@treadbylee.com>; blyman@alabamareflector.com <blyman@alabamareflector.com>; Kay Norred <knorred@wvua23.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 06:19:53 PM CST
Subject: "What did UA students think of Vivek Ramaswamy calling ‘the climate change agenda’ a hoax?"
Dear Professor Bauer,
This email is prompted by Lee Hedgepeth's article https://alabamareflector.com/2023/12/12/what-did-ua-students-think-of-vivek-ramaswamy-calling-the-climate-change-agenda-a-hoax/, which uses the Dec. 6th debate to focus on younger Americans and the climate and reports your views related to same.
I was keen on Alabama TV and other news outlets availing of the Dec. 6th debate to provide to Alabamians important information for their consideration in the 2024 elections. As set out at https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2023/12/alabama-and-debate.html, my efforts have led to my sending you this email.
What I have decided to do now is to try to pose a question to the "all-star cast of legislators, government and corporate executives, university administrators, major party donors and industry association chiefs alongside the crowd of GOP officials and national political influencers. who gathered to see history in the making in Tuscaloosa." https://yellowhammernews.com/alabamas-most-influential-leaders-attended-incredible-gop-debate-at-the-university-of-alabama/
The question I am going to try to pose is: "What will happen to the United States in the 2024 elections?" https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2023/12/what-will-happen-to-united-states-in.html.
Wish me luck in getting any answers from the aforesaid "all-star cast."
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
[Edit 12/22 The question I am going to try to pose has been changed to "Did Donald Trump engage in insurrection on Jan. 6th?".]
 
Email to University of Alabama President Bell
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: president@ua.edu <president@ua.edu>
Cc: ajbauer2@ua.edu <ajbauer2@ua.edu>; "lee@treadbylee.com" <lee@treadbylee.com>; blyman@alabamareflector.com <blyman@alabamareflector.com>; Kay Norred <knorred@wvua23.com>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 at 12:16:42 PM CST
Subject: Did Donald Trump engage in insurrection on Jan. 6th?
Dear University of Alabama President Bell:
You are identified as one of an "all-star cast of legislators, government and corporate executives, university administrators, major party donors and industry association chiefs alongside the crowd of GOP officials and national political influencers. who gathered [for the Dec. 6th debate] to see history in the making in Tuscaloosa." https://yellowhammernews.com/alabamas-most-influential-leaders-attended-incredible-gop-debate-at-the-university-of-alabama/
I wish to ask you whether you believe Donald Trump engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6th.
I would like to post whatever you say on my blog at https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2023/12/what-will-happen-to-united-states-in.html.
Thank you for whatever reply you can give to my question.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook, AL

Email to Caroleene Dobson, Republican candidate in 2nd Cong'l district
From: Rob Shattuck <rdshatt@aol.com>
To: cdobson@maynardnexsen.com <cdobson@maynardnexsen.com>
Cc: cborton@maynardnexsen.com <cborton@maynardnexsen.com>; ddowd@burr.com <ddowd@burr.com>; Chris Christie <chris.christie@dentons.com>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 at 07:19:56 PM CST
Subject: Did Donald Trump engage in insurrection on Jan. 6th
Caroleene:
I cannot find on your campaign website an email address for communicating to you, so I am using your law firm email.
Can you please say whether you believe Donald Trump engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6th?
While I am not a voter in the 2nd Congressional district, it would seem generally relevant that a Congressional candidate have an understanding of what insurrection is or is not, in order to be a Congressional lawmaker having an oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, and needing to make voting decisions in Congress about laws for preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution, or not.
I will post any reply you provide me on my blog at https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2023/12/what-will-happen-to-united-states-in.html.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck
Mountain Brook 
My thoughts regarding Colorado case
I have been following the Colorado case and don't understand this:
When and how, if at all, does any party have any standing to enforce, or try to enforce, Section 3 of Amendment 14 to keep Donald Trump from being President of the United States again?
SCOTUS may hold that Section 3 does not apply to the office of the United States President.
Also, SCOTUS may hold that Section 3 is not a bar to a person being President without there being on the books "appropriate" Congressional legislation enforcing Section 3, and there is no such "appropriate" legislation on the books.
Either of the foregoing holdings would answer my question and would say that no party can enforce, or try to enforce, Section 3 of Amendment 14 to keep Donald Trump from being President of the United States again (except Congress being able to enact legislation under Section 5 that would be an avenue for barring Trump under Section 3).
To me it seems that the country is deserving of a definitive pronouncement from SCOTUS regarding the foregoing, either in the Colorado case or in other litigation that is brought if the Colorado case does not result in definitive pronouncement from SCOTUS regarding the foregoing.
In the commentary about the Colorado case that I have heard, I have not heard any commentator discussing litigation that can and should be undertaken if SCOTUS does not make definitive pronouncement about the foregoing in the Colorado case.
Maybe I am off base in thinking that there should be discussion about litigation that can and should be undertaken if SCOTUS does not make definitive pronouncement about the foregoing in the Colorado case. 

[For continuation on this subject, go to  Be An Alabama Rootstriker* with Rob Shattuck: Supercharging the "rule of law" debate in Alabama (al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com)]

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